Dr. Peter Ruckman was in the Mandatory Vocalization Club vs Robert Breaker who isn't! (1950s-1990s) Part 2

about salvation. This is to contrast them against the young 1960-70s Ruckman.

[Robert Breaker , Feb 12, 2022]

Robert Breaker:

...what you're believing in. And you can go to the Lord as a lost man after

understanding with your heart, like the verse says, and say, "Lord, I realize

I'm a sinner. Right now I trust You as my Savior. I trust that blood You shed.

Lord, I'm trusting in You for salvation."

If it just came out of the mouth, and you're just saying it, and you don't

believe it, no salvation. But if you believe it, there's nothing wrong with it

coming out of the mouth if it's belief in the heart. There's been people that

got saved when they pray, but it's not the prayer that saves you. Okay?

A lot of people want to add to salvation and make it something you do. A lot of

people out there say, "You can't get saved unless you say a prayer." [chuckles]

Watch out for those people.

[Peter Ruckman , Audio Commentary on Romans, 1969–1974]

Peter Ruckman:

The word is nigh thee, near thee. It's right on your lips, it's right in your

heart. It's present. You have access to it. You don't have to go anywhere, you

don't have to study anything, you don't have to learn anything, there's nothing

to attain. It is the word of faith which we preach.

And here it comes: the simplest, clearest presentation of salvation found

anywhere in either Testament. Two conditions. If. If thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the Lord Jesus. Number two: And shalt believe in thine heart that God hath

raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. No ifs, ands, buts about it.

And notice the heart is not changed. The heart believes on Christ in its regular

condition. There is no, no overpowering of the sinner by the irresistible grace

of God, which transforms against his will into a new creature so he can receive

Christ and all that Calvinistic baloney. It's saying that an unsaved man is in a

natural condition and he's told, if you believe something in your heart, confess

it with your mouth, God'll give you the new birth, God'll save you, and impute

to you righteousness, and justify you.

[Robert Breaker , Feb 12, 2022 (Continued)]

Robert Breaker:

Okay? Because that can deceive people into thinking, "Oh, so the prayer saves

me?" And then they do the prayer over and over and over. What do you trust in

from your heart? And do you realize that it's the faith that calls on God from

the heart?

A lot of people will run to Romans chapter 10, and they won't even read it. They

just take one verse out of context, Romans 10:13, and they leave the rest of it

off. Let's actually read the context. Romans chapter 10, verse 1: "Brethren, my

heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved." Okay,

he wants them saved. Boy, yeah, I'd like to see them saved, too. "For I bear

them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge." Oh,

so there's something they're missing that they don't know. "For they being

ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own

righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God."

So, rather than saying He's the righteous one, and I just put aside all my

righteousness and I trust in His alone, no, they're like, "Um, no, it's what we

do or say, so we're going to set up our own righteousness. We're going to say

it's what we did that saves us." And they're saying, "Now I'm righteous because

I did this." That's called self-righteousness, and that's being lost, because

that's not the true gospel.

Verse 4: "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that

believeth." So, there's some belief that takes place. If you just say, "Oh, God,

save me," and there's no faith from the heart, you're not believing in in the

finished work of Christ, all you did was a vain repetition. That's not

salvation. So, I want to make sure I focus in on the true gospel and calling

from the heart.

And look what it says. Look what it says in verse 5 and 6: "For Moses describeth

the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things

shall live by them." Under the Old Testament, you had to do that. But now, in

the New Testament, verse 6: "But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on

this wise, Say not in thine heart..." The Bible says that faith speaketh. Well,

a lot of people say call means to speak. Oh, well, then here we have faith

speaking to God, so there's your calling.

Your faith in the right thing that saves us calls out to God. See, God's not

looking at your mouth; He's looking at your heart. And He's looking at that

heart, and He's saying, "Now, when with all of your being are you trusting in Me

for salvation?" Because He's like, "I don't care what you say with your mouth.

It's, do you trust Me with all your heart?"

In the interest of full transparency, not much footage of Dr. Ruckman from

the 1960s is available, whether about salvation or not.

This isn’t an issue, however, because Robert Ray Breaker II went to Ruckman's

school in the late 1970s and early 1980s. His son, Robert Ray Breaker III,

started attending Dr. Ruckman's church in the late 1990s. This means the things

you will hear and see are what Robert Ray Breaker II witnessed, heard, and later

told his son.

In fact, everything you are about to see is what Robert Breaker II defines as

"Young Ruckman."

“Young Ruckman?”

This is the full quote.

[Robert Breaker , Oct 25, 2022 (Replay)]

Robert Breaker:

...um, I do find some things in the Ruckman Reference Bible that are like,

"What?" And so, I just, I wonder, toward, toward the end, Ruckman said some

things a little differently than he did before. And I'll just say it, because I

don't care. I mean, [laughs] I just want people to know the truth. There was

young Ruckman, and old Ruckman. And young, young Ruckman preached it hard,

preached it straight, faith in the blood, preached it right. As he got older, he

started to say things a little bit differently.

I will first prove a Ruckman clip is in the 1960s-1970s.

Then I will give what he says about sinners prayers being a requirement for

salvation.

[Peter Ruckman , Audio Cassette 169c: "How God Punishes the Lost", 1965–early 1967]

Peter Ruckman:

But you will when you get to judgment, brother. Unsaved people are miserable.

They're irritated. And I'll bet you the trouble with half the teachers at

Pensacola Junior College and half the teachers going to come out of that Western

Florida University, it's just the fact they turn on the radio at the wrong time.

“Are going to come out that western florida university”

“Going to” is future tense.

Classes started in 1967.